JoJo Siwa has seen your โBette Davis Eyesโ videos.
Her cover of Kim Carnesโ 1981 song neared the top of the U.K pop charts, but has also been met with a mix of fascination and bewilderment online. TikTokers are creating versions of their own โBette Davis Eyes,โ wearing a version of the 1950s-inspired blue top she wears in the video and re-creating her raspy voice.
โSome of them, I die laughing,โ Siwa tells TODAY.com in a Zoom interview. โThen thereโs some that Iโm like, โWhere do people get the audacity? Why do people feel OK to sleep at night?’ Thereโs a fine line of comedy and fine line of trashing.โโ
Siwa says she was walking recently and a man around her age came up to her singing โBette Davis Eyesโ in a โfake raspy voice.โ
โI turn around at him and said, โNice singing,โโ she says. โHe ran off. I was just like โ I wish I wouldโve pulled him aside and said, โLook. If youโre going to make fun of me, the least you could do is have a conversation with me.โ I probably would have taken him to go buy a Gucci bag.โ
Love it or hate it, โBette Davis Eyesโ has become a cultural moment โ which is ironic, considering Siwa didnโt want to sing it in the first place. The idea came from a producer on her music team.
โShe played โBette Davis Eyesโ and said, โI bet you donโt even know this song, but your voice would be incredible on it,’โ Siwa recalls. Siwa was born in 2003, over two decades after Kim Carnesโ song spent nine consecutive weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and became an โ80s anthem.
After receiving criticism for her performances on Season 3 of โThe Masked Singer,โ the โDance Momsโ star was hesitant to make a cover her next career step.
โAbsolutely not. Never. Nope, nope, not happening. I got too shy, too insecure,โ she remembers saying.
The conversation was tabled until she was planning her set at the Tecate Emblema music festival in Mexico City and had 20 minutes left to fill. Siwaโs mom brought up โBette Davis Eyes.โ Still unsure, Siwa says she โactually started cryingโ over the idea of singing it onstage.
โMy mom was like, โYou can. Youโre saying you canโt, but you can,โโ she remembers her mom saying. โShe told me, โDo something that makes you want to sing the song.โโ
This advice inspired the viral moment where Siwa changed the lyrics of โBette Davis Eyesโ to โChris Hughes’s eyesโ onstage.
Those following Siwaโs personal life would know exactly what that means. Itโs a reference to her boyfriend, former โLove Islandโ contestant Chris Hughes. The two met on โBig Brother UK.โ Siwa entered the show in a relationship with Kath Ebbs, an Australian influencer who identifies as a “gender queer lesbian.” The night the show ended, Siwa and Ebbs split up. Weeks later, Siwa and Hughes made things official. (In fact, he interrupted Siwa’s conversation with TODAY.com with his rendition of โYou Are My Sunshine.โ)
After performing the song live for the first time, she was struck and surprised by the feedback. โThe response to it was unreal,โ Siwa says. โPeople had so much good to say about it โฆ people actually want this.โ
Siwa teased a recorded version on her TikTok twice then released the full cover on July 10 โ and the reactions, some of them more negative, poured in.
Siwa says sheโs come to expect commentary โ it happened last summer after she released โKarma,โ which at the time seemed like an edgy rebrand from her time as a child star.
โWhen Iโm posting something, Iโm sort of asking for that, right? I think people like to get a laugh. And I know I like to be a laugh,โ she says.
โWhen Iโm posting something, Iโm sort of asking for that, right? I think people like to get a laugh. And I know I like to be a laugh.โ
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What does Siwa have to say to her haters? โAll good, troops, all good. Sometimes I hate me too, and itโs all good,โ Siwa says, laughing. โAs long as youโre getting a smile or a laugh, and Iโm not ruining your dayโฆ Goal achieved from me.โ
One of the skeptics was Carnes herself. The singer posted a now deleted TikTok about Siwaโs song, implying Siwaโs version lacked โauthenticity.โ
Carnes later clarified her statement to TMZ, saying she โstrongly rejects(s) the kind of hate and personal attacks Iโve seen onlineโ but also believes โartists have the right to speak openly about how something makes them feel โ especially when itโs as personal as your voice.โ
Carnes said Siwa’s rendition “felt a bit too close” to her version, including โthe phrasing, the tone, even the little inflections.”
โKim kind of came out and said some stuff, but it actually fascinates me, what she said,โ Siwa tells TODAY.com. โAs an artist, what you want to do is inspire people, and I think the most beautiful thing is to have another artist be inspired by you.โ
Other artists who covered the song, like Taylor Swift, didnโt use rasp like Carnes. Siwa defends keeping the rasp in her cover. For one, Siwa says she has โvery broken vocal chordsโ that make it possible to โkind of replicateโ Carnesโ singing style.
She also โdidnโt want to sing the song like a natural beauty โ I wanted to sing the song the way it inspired me,โ she says. โYou want that rasp in there.โ
During the recording session, she asked for no water. โThe raspier I get, the better it is. So my voice is just screwed after, but worth it absolutely. Now Iโll incorporate that super raspy tone into more,โ she says.
Less natural was the look for the music video. Siwa says she โabsolutely hatesโ changing up her look.
โI put the costume on and I put the wig on and I was laughing at myself in the mural. Like, thereโs thereโs no way this is happening. This is hysterical. I look in the mirror and Iโm cackling at myself,โ she says. โItโs a little bit like Halloween.โ
Beyond Siwaโs cover, โBette Davis Eyesโ is having a moment this summer โ Ethel Cain also covered it and it figured prominently in Episode 7 of โAnd Just Like Thatโ Season 3. Siwa says she missed the feature, as she spends most of her leisure time listening to the โHamiltonโ soundtrack or watching sports with Hughes.
โIโve really found that Iโve got a clear sense of vision again, in my personal life, but especially in my career.โ
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The moment inspired Siwa for her next chapter. Sheโs now working on a new single inspired by โBette Davis Eyes,โ set to release in August.
โItโs interesting, because, for the first time, Iโve actually enjoyed writing a song,โ Siwa says about the potential new single.
Post โBig Brotherโ and โBette Davis,โ Siwa says she โknows exactlyโ what she wants in her life.
โIโve really found that Iโve got a clear sense of vision again, in my personal life, but especially in my career.โ